Maher's Overtime panel splits over Hegseth's military leadership
Jim VandeHei challenges the defense secretary's treatment of senior officers, while Ted Cruz and Kid Rock defend his standing with troops.
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Overtime with Bill Maher: Ted Cruz, Kid Rock, Jim VandeHei (HBO)
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- 4:28VandeHei criticizes Hegseth's treatment of senior military officials; Cruz and Kid Rock defend his popularity among troops.
- 6:33Kid Rock says two Apache helicopters flew over his house during a visit by Hegseth.
- 10:02VandeHei and Cruz warn about Chinese espionage, with Cruz framing AI leadership as essential to American security.
- 12:24Kid Rock recounts Trump handing him a phone with Macron on the line, then leaving to take a golf shot.
What makes a good defense secretary: the confidence of senior commanders or popularity among the troops? Bill Maher's Overtime guests approach Pete Hegseth from sharply different directions, before the conversation takes a detour onto Donald Trump's golf cart.
Axios co-founder Jim VandeHei criticizes Hegseth's treatment of top military officials. Ted Cruz and Kid Rock counter by emphasizing what they describe as his popularity among service members. Cruz makes his own position explicit: "I like Pete Hegseth. I'll say that definitely."
Kid Rock then brings the discussion considerably closer to home, recounting a visit by Hegseth during which two Apache helicopters flew over his house.
The after-show conversation opens with Maher asking Cruz about James Talarico's chances in Texas. Later, the panel turns to China and artificial intelligence, with VandeHei expressing concern about espionage and Cruz arguing that American leadership in AI is a national-security necessity.
The change of register comes near the end. Kid Rock recalls riding in a golf cart with Trump when Emmanuel Macron called. According to the musician, Trump handed him the phone with the French president on the line, then left to take his shot. The show has also posted that anecdote separately as "Kid Rock Tells the Macron Story | Overtime with Bill Maher (HBO)".
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Which country's president does Kid Rock say Trump put on the phone?
Kid Rock's anecdote concerns a call from French President Emmanuel Macron.


