Video taking off 23x its usual first day

Stephanie Mills wants a Chaka Khan rematch and defends Diana Ross

Her long sit-down with Jason Lee covers The Wiz, Michael Jackson, a Lady Gaga encounter and a visit from her son Farad.

Why this story? The video opened at a pace of 122,959 views a day, 23 times a normal first day on this channel (5,318).

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  1. 3:55Mills recalls meeting Michael Jackson through Broadway's The Wiz and their close friendship.
  2. 7:27Remembering a tour with Gladys Knight and Chaka Khan, she challenges Khan to a Verzuz rematch.
  3. 8:21She denies any feud with Diana Ross over the film version of The Wiz.
  4. 10:19She describes surprising Lady Gaga with "Home," a cold reception and photos she says had to be deleted.
  5. 40:46Her son Farad joins to talk about writing, rapping and the Dallas Cowboys.
  6. 50:14Mills confirms plans for the Chaka Khan Verzuz and a solo headlining tour.

A full-length interview on BET's channel usually opens its first day with a few thousand views. Stephanie Mills's conversation with Jason Lee had about 75,000 within ten hours. The comments moved even faster: a usual first day brings a handful, and this one gathered hundreds before the day was half over.

The hour starts with The Wiz. Mills was a teenager when she played Dorothy on Broadway, and "Home" became her signature song. That is where she met Michael Jackson. She describes a close friendship from before either was famous, admits she playfully thought of him as her boyfriend, and makes clear she will always protect his name. The most liked comment says simply that she does not play about Michael.

She also takes on the old story that she resented Diana Ross for playing Dorothy in the film version. There was never any feud, she says: "I love the ground Ms. Ross walks on." With Chaka Khan she wants a contest, and says so plainly: "I'm challenging Chaka to do a Verzuz with me." Later she confirms plans for one, along with a solo headlining tour.

The moment BET pushed hardest was a less friendly one. Mills says she was invited to surprise Lady Gaga by singing "Home," was met coldly, and then her team was told to delete every photo they had taken together. "I feel like Lady Gaga is a culture vulture," she says. Two Shorts built on that clip also started many times faster than the channel's usual Shorts, and a third took up her criticism of Oprah Winfrey and Gayle King.

The gentlest stretch comes at the forty-minute mark, when Mills brings out her son Farad. He has Down syndrome, which the episode's description says she never saw as a limitation. He talks about his writing, his rapping and his loyalty to the Dallas Cowboys.

One viewer suggests Lee make "Stephanie Mills Time" a monthly segment. Mills herself insists, "I don't consider myself an icon."

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What viewers say

  • Stephanie don’t play about Michael! 😂
    @ThatsSoLizz94See it on YouTube
  • Jason you need a monthly segment called “Stephanie Mills Time”. Great interview!!
    @sharonlaudat3297See it on YouTube
  • Love her REALNESS! Thank you Jason for allowing the LOVELY Miss Stephanie to be on your show! Seen her twice and I even met her backstage! 🤗 So GRATEFUL to have seen her with the GREAT Teddy Pendergrass! ❤
    @danavixen6274See it on YouTube
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  • When I see a Stephanie mill’s interview I’m going to watch err time!!
    @missverlissaSee it on YouTube
  • Stephanie Mills is “A“ONE from day one. A classic, professional singer, actress. Beautiful woman Always loved her! I'm 63 💕🤗
    @LauraJensen-m5dSee it on YouTube
  • I AM IN LUUVV WITH HER HAIR!!!! It has its own moment.
    @maxinec1616See it on YouTube
  • This lady is as real as it gets love and respect her ❤️
    @AndrewKasheefSee it on YouTube
  • Ms. Stephanie Mills Ain’t NOTHING TO BE PLAYED WITH!!! Such an Icon and Forever Loved 🥰
  • Jason Lee, I greatly appreciate you for bringing Ms. Stephanie Mills to ur show this was an AWESOME INTERVIEW 👑👑💎💎🔥🔥🌟🌟💥💥💯💯
    @chalisagordon773See it on YouTube
  • Miss Stephanie Mills My FAVORITE Lady🩷🌷🌸🌷💕😊

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The facts
Subscribers
5,440,000
Channel views, last 7 days
3,948,785
Channel views, pace per day
166,656 (on a normal day: 649,171)
Video published
October 14, 2026
Video views so far
75,263 (less than a day online)
Video views, pace per day
122,959 (on a normal day: 1)

The numbers

The full interview and the clips cut from it all started far ahead of what BET's channel usually sees on a first day.

the video's first day
usual first day here
5,318
this video
122,959
subscribers
5,440,000
no significant change in the last 7 days
total views
1,922,396,334
views per day
166,656
typical day: 649,171
the video
views
75,263
likes
3,061
comments
460
days online
1
subscribers: this channel and similar channels
Discovery
6,520,000
BETNetworks
5,440,000
GameofThrones
4,880,000
60 Minutes
4,210,000
As of October 15, 2026 · Data source: Trari Social News, Trari Traffic Trends and Ranking Platform, Google YouTube
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