Stephen A. Smith says Trump dinner wasn't about validation
Responding to Higher Learning's Rachel Lindsay and Van Lathan, Smith argues that access to a president should be judged by what it achieves.
Why this story? The video opened at a pace of 413,250 views a day, 6.9 times a normal first day on this channel (59,916).
Stephen A. Smith Fires Back At D.L. Hughley, Van Lathan & Rachel Lindsay
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- 0:34Smith argues that political disagreement should not automatically be read as racial hatred.
- 9:16Higher Learning clips introduce Lindsay and Lathan's objections to Smith's dinner with Trump.
- 12:14Smith rejects the suggestion that his self-worth depends on validation from Trump.
- 16:45Smith argues that engaging with the sitting president is unavoidable for people seeking policy results.
- 19:24He says the purpose of access should be securing help for people in need.
- 23:17Smith says he is willing to discuss his approach with Lathan and other open-minded critics.
Rachel Lindsay questions whether Stephen A. Smith's dinner with Donald Trump made him feel specially chosen. Smith's answer is emphatic: "I damn sure don't need Donald Trump to make me feel that way."
His new response expands beyond the D.L. Hughley criticism he addressed earlier, taking on the Higher Learning co-hosts' objections to his White House visit. Lindsay questions his pride in the invitation; Van Lathan challenges the value of such encounters and accuses Smith of normalizing Trump.
"Normalizing the president? He's the president," Smith responds. His argument is that talking to someone who holds power is a practical necessity, not a declaration of admiration. He points to Van Jones's work on the First Step Act as an example of engagement he believes produced results.
The response drew more than 160,000 views in six hours, already well beyond the channel's usual full-day audience for regular videos. The comments also reached nearly four times the usual first-day total before that day was complete.
Smith opens with Hughley's questioning of why conservatives who criticize prominent Black figures seem comfortable around him. He pushes back against treating conservative voters as a single group with a single motive, before turning to Lindsay and Lathan's podcast clips.
The distinction he wants viewers to make comes late in the segment: "It's about what, if anything, can you get from him to help those in need." Smith says he remains willing to talk with Lathan and other open-minded critics about that approach.
American media personality, attorney and podcaster who co-hosts Higher Learning with Van Lathan. She was the first Black lead in The Bachelor franchise.
More on Wikipedia ›American actor and stand-up comedian known for the sitcom The Hughleys and as one of the four performers in The Original Kings of Comedy.
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