Roland Martin disputes Trump's HBCU funding "record" claim
His response to Stephen A. Smith's White House interview challenges both the source of the money and Trump's description of colleges facing bankruptcy.
Why this story? The video opened at a pace of 51,524 views a day, 25 times a normal first day on this channel (2,044).
Roland Martin Fact-Checks Trump's $438 Million HBCU "Record"
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A claim about saving Black colleges is where Roland Martin hits pause on Stephen A. Smith's White House interview with Donald Trump.
Trump describes a $438 million allocation to historically Black colleges and universities as a record one-time investment, adding that the institutions had been ready to go bankrupt. Martin stops the playback: "Freeze. He lied."
His rebuttal has two parts. Martin says the money was redirected from funds intended for Hispanic-serving institutions, rather than representing the new record investment Trump describes. He also rejects Trump's account of the colleges' financial condition: "The universities were not going bankrupt. That's a lie."
The Short drew roughly 34,000 views in its first 11 hours, already far beyond the channel's usual full-day audience for that format. The response sits within a broader run of Martin's criticism of the interview, rather than an isolated exchange over education funding.
A separate Short faults Smith for not challenging Trump during their conversation. In a longer response, Martin also examines Trump's presentation of criminal justice reform and Black voting rights. His argument throughout is about the interviewer's responsibility as well as the president's statements: Martin says Smith should have pressed for the context behind the claims while Trump was making them.
American television personality, sports analyst and political commentator. He is a commentator on ESPN’s First Take and frequently appears on the network’s NBA coverage.
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The HBCU Short has already surpassed the channel's usual first-day Shorts views. Martin's longer response to the interview also drew an unusually large audience for its format.
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