Pod Save the World widens its post-election foreign-policy debate
The podcast reaches its highest Apple chart position in a month as Tommy Vietor and Ben Rhodes turn to Israel policy and nuclear diplomacy.
Why this story? The podcast "Pod Save the World" rose to #52 on Apple's podcast chart in the US, from #87 yesterday.
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- 0:31Rhodes joins from Istanbul after midnight as the hosts await US election returns.
- 10:32The hosts examine escalation risks involving civilian infrastructure and Iranian nuclear sites, including Pickaxe Mountain.
- 20:50Israel's election discussion centers on Eisenkot's coalition efforts and Netanyahu's attempts to retain power.
- 29:15Trump's remarks about ending aid to Israel prompt discussion of weapons supplies and defense technology cooperation.
- 44:45The Ukraine segment examines reported Russian strike plans and proposals to sell Russian gas.
What should Democrats change abroad after winning at home? Pod Save the World has been working through that question with lawmakers, policy advocates and a journalist whose reporting stretches back to Ukraine's nuclear disarmament.
The Crooked Media foreign-policy podcast has moved from 87th to 52nd on Apple's podcast chart in the United States, its highest position in the past month. Hosted by Tommy Vietor and Ben Rhodes, both veterans of Barack Obama's national-security team, the show combines international news with arguments about what Washington should do next.
Since the Crooked Con discussion we covered here, Vietor has hosted a more focused debate about Democrats' approach to Israel and Palestine. Tariq Habash, co-founder of A New Policy, and former State Department official Joel Rubin discuss military aid, the prospects for a two-state solution and what accountability should mean ahead of the next presidential campaign.
The latest episode, "Tinker, Tailor, Chipmaker, Spy," includes discussion of the Hegseth impeachment push, Iran and Russia-Ukraine talks. It also brings in veteran journalist Jane Perlez, host of Face Off: Nuclear Anarchy?, to discuss China's nuclear ambitions. Her perspective includes watching Ukraine dismantle its nuclear arsenal in the nineties and traveling to North Korea with Madeleine Albright.
The episode accompanying this page is the earlier Iran-war discussion. Recorded while election returns were still awaited, it finds Rhodes joining remotely from Istanbul after midnight, considering the risks of escalation before the hosts knew the political landscape that would frame their next conversations.
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- Channel
- Pod Save the World
- Subscribers
- 259,000 ▲ 1,000 this week
- Channel views, last 7 days
- 442,736
- Channel views, pace per day
- 57,033 (on a normal day: 50,285)
- The podcast
- Pod Save the World
- Place on the chart today
- 52
- Place on the chart yesterday
- 87
- Best place in the last 30 days
- 52
- Video published
- November 4, 2026
- Video views so far
- 131,185 (8 days online)
- Video views, pace per day
- 284 (on a normal day: 19,357)
The numbers
Pod Save the World's rise puts it at its best position on Apple's US podcast chart in the past month.
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Which veteran journalist joins the latest episode to discuss nuclear diplomacy?
Perlez joins Vietor to discuss China's nuclear ambitions and her reporting experiences in Ukraine and North Korea.


